Like I said, none of it adds up. Of course, this is not a perfect theory, and there are a couple of potential issues to be dealt with. Since then, Rose has written for Horror Honeys, Moviepilot and Quirkbooks as well as Screenrant, increasingly focusing on comic books and live-action comic adaptations, as well as diversity and representation on screen. Related: Fantastic Beasts: Explaining The Harry Potter Canon Plot Holes. The MCU Will Have Two Versions Of Nova, Teases Marvel President, Wonder Woman 1984's Ending Serves Max Lord, But Not Cheetah. Credence Barebone was born around 1901, allegedly to the Dumbledore family, as Aurelius Dumbledore, according to Gellert Grindelwald.In 1901, Credence was taken by his aunt on a ship heading to America. Not only does this theory make the most sense, explaining how Credence/Aurelius was born, the age gap, the total lack of previous information on him, and how Grindelwald knew about him in the first place, but it also makes the franchise a whole lot more interesting. He was switched in the crib by a young Leta Lestrange for her half-brother Corvus because he was crying. Albus Dumbledore's Sister Ariana May Have Been An Obscurial. Another, probably less likely option, is that Credence is the son of Kendra Dumbledore by an as-yet-unknown father. Or, he could be lying, but only about the "brother" part. Another issue that the Dumbledore-Son theory creates revolves around Albus' sexuality. Fantastic Beasts So according to Grindelwald, who definitely would have had the inside story scoop, Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore, sibling to Albus, and now obviously we all think he’s lying but then that pheoix in the room pops up and backs up Grindelwald. Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald revealed Credence Barebone is Aurelius Dumbledore, but what if he's actually Albus Dumbledore's son instead? The prophecy about Credence/Aurelius describes him as "a son cruelly banished," which perfectly fits with a child sent back to America after Dumbledore didn't want him. Rose Moore has been writing about film, TV and comics since 2013, when she began writing for a local print magazine in Vancouver, BC. Daddy's girl. It's a truly devious plot, and one we'd love to see play out. In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald's ending, Credence joins Grindelwald in his mountain fortress, desperate to find out what his true identity is. While most … Presumably, though, this isn't too difficult to explain. Leta Lestrange (Zoe Kravitz) confesses in the Lestrange tomb that she 'killed' her brother Corvus. Related: Fantastic Beasts 2 Trailer Reveals Important Deleted Scenes. And considering that his family as at the crux of the entire franchise, it will be interesting to see how the latest twist plays out. That wouldn’t explain the mention of “your brother” again, but somehow could fit. Once there, Grindelwald reveals Credence’s true identity to him: He is Aurelius Dumbledore, Albus Dumbledore’s brother. Killing your own son and dueling your ex-lover will do that to a person. https://screenrant.com/fantastic-beasts-credence-dumbledore-son-theory All we can hope is that Rowling finds a way to tie up Fantastic Beasts' loose ends - and that if the Fantastic Beasts franchise continues to under-perform at the box office, all five films are still made, so that fans aren't left wondering. Perhaps the woman on the ship with them was actually his mother, not his aunt, or was an aunt sent to collect the child after his mother died in childbirth. Completed February 23, 2014 Alpha marrii . We also know that baby Credence was on board the same America-bound ship as Leta Lestrange when she accidentally killed her brother Corvus. This was all dumbledores fault. ), and since then has had an on-again, off-again love affair with not just Marvel, but DC and indie comics as well. Theory: I think Credence is Ariana Dumbledore's son, and Albus Dumbledore's nephew, and not his brother. Later in the film, Leta corrects everyone's assumption that Credence is her younger half-brother Corvus by revealing that he died during a trip to America with the family midwife. It also goes a long way to explaining the intensity of the relationship between Dumbledore and Harry himself; Dumbledore still mourns the loss of his own secret son, and Harry mourns his parents and searches for a father figure. Aberforth was more into goats. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. However, there are some big questions that this raises, especially as Albus's parents didn't exactly lead long and happy lives. Grindelwald is lying. I genuinely love this theory and think it's the most dramatic one out there, story wise. Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Cameo Explained, Disneyland Cancelling Annual Pass Program To Manage Re-Opening Crowds, Godzilla vs. Kong Fan-Made Trailer Collects All Released Footage, DC Films Head Defended By Warner Following Ray Fisher Statement, Anthony Mackie Says Falcon Is America's Ass, Not Captain America, Matt Damon Reportedly Arrives In Australia To Film Thor 4, Brie Larson Says Captain Marvel 2 Director Is Best Choice For MCU Sequel, Daredevil Star Charlie Cox Reportedly Wraps Filming On MCU Spider-Man 3. Kendra died in 1899, and Percival was sent to Azkaban around 1890, and died shortly thereafter. I growled. The fan-favorite theory, then, is that Aurelius is a half-brother to Albus and Aberforth, and the son of Percival and Voldemort's grandmother. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. He wanted me to kill my own father then he would kill me. However, there are some big issues with this theory; starting with the fairly huge assumption that it would be possible for a witch and wizard in Azkaban to be intimate, to carry multiple children to term in prison, and that the Dementors would be happy to see children ferried out of the prison. Kendra was the mother of Albus Dumbledore. Credence Barebone (allegedly born Aurelius Dumbledore; c. 19011) was an American wizard who lived during the 20th century. This is difficult for fans to swallow. Dumbledore definition, bumblebee. Alternatively, Dumbledore may be bisexual, pansexual, or elsewhere on the spectrum of sexual orientation. 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I can't be the only who how thinks this is most likely the answer. Considering when they both died, Credence is too young to be the son of either Dumbledore parent. Did the Muggle boys do something terrible to Ariana? Aurelius is Ariana’s son. Fantastic Beats: The Crimes of Grindelwald - The Official Screenplay. Related: Harry Potter Theory: Dumbledore Was Lying About Grindelwald All Along. He could be lying about the connection entirely, using a transfiguration spell on the chick to turn it into a phoenix and laying some devious plan to get Credence/Aurelius to hate Dumbledore. He was adopted by Mary Lou Barebone, the leader of a No-Maj anti-witchcraft group called the New Salem Philanthropic Society. If Credence and Albus share the same mother, this is still pretty much implausible. Along with his two adopted sisters, he would often help his mother and the Second Salemers by hanging up posters, finding places to preach on street corners, and washing dishes in the soup kitchen at New Salem Church (WFT). So what do you think? From the start of the series, J.K. Rowling and the rest of the creative team behind the Fantastic Beasts movies have been playing fast and loose with the Harry Potter timeline, changing certain story arcs and even breaking Harry Potter canon, sometimes when it doesn't need to be. Either Credence/Aurelius succeeds, and Dumbledore is dead, or he fails, and Grindelwald can reveal the truth about him, destroying Dumbledore emotionally. So, if it's not possible that Percival fathered Credence/Aurelius, thanks to being locked away, then could Kendra be his mystery mother? After spending the entire film being led to believe that Credence was a member of the LeStrange family, fans were shocked (and fairly unimpressed) by the final bait-and-switch, as Grindelwald turns Credence's chick into a Phoenix (now the bird of the Dumbledore family), and tells him that he's Aurelius Dumbledore. Theory: I think Credence is Ariana Dumbledore's son, and Albus Dumbledore's nephew, and not his brother. This theory claims that in that so called “summer” that Grindelwald spent with the Dumbledores, the dark wizard raped the youngest Dumbledore sibling and the product of that crime Aurelius was born. From everything we know of Azkaban and the Dementors, this just doesn't make sense. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Albus Dumbledore may actually be a half-brother to Aberforth, secretly the child of his maiden aunt Honoria, who is also the mother to Credence (and the woman on the boat). It's simply easier for Grindelwald to manipulate Credence/Aurelius if he presents Albus as his brother, rather than his father. May be just a coincidence or refer to the fact that Credence is not a human being. You can follow her on Twitter: RoseMooreWrites for tweets about comics, movies, and more. Remember we still have three movies ahead. Considering that Credence is said to be Albus' brother it is highly likely she is also Dumbledore's aunt. The short answer is no - Kendra was killed in June of 1899, and, again, Credence/Aurelius wasn't born until 1901 at the earliest, so it's not possible that Kendra is his mother. Credence/Aurelius is desperately seeking his parents - if he were to find one, he would be lost to Grindelwald. Dumbledore’s Parents. However, if Grindelwald convinces him that he has a brother, and that brother killed their sister (and by extension, their mother), then Credence/Aurelius can be taught to see Albus as the one who stole his family and now wants to kill him, too. Credence is Ariana´s son. Dumbledore was born in 1881, thus making him about 19 years old when Credence/Aurelius was born. With Credence/Aurelius being born in 1901, it's also probable that Dumbledore's affair with Credence's mother was going on in 1899 at almost the same time that he was with Grindelwald - or, as Grindelwald fled at the end of their summer together, after Ariana was killed, immediately afterward. This would certainly explain how Grindelwald knew of Credence/Aurelius's connection to Albus - he may even have met the witch in question. The first records of the word dumbledore come from the late 1700s. There, finally, Grindelwald tells Credence he is, in fact, a Dumbledore. How Is Credence Barebone Related to Albus Dumbledore? Rose also co-hosted the DC Movies Podcast, and has guested on other nerd and entertainment podcasts over the past five years. Perhaps Credence is a Dumbledore, but not a sibling. He's their blood child I assume the name is probably something Grindelwald gave him, probably for personal reasons. Rowling confirmed that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald; locked in grief over the loss of both his lover and his family, did Dumbledore turn elsewhere for affection and comfort? Phoenixes are also known to approach the Dumbledore family. Now, here’s where things get a … Age-wise, it would make the most sense for Credence to be Albus or Aberforth’s son — though that would be, ya know, hugely unexpected news. Aberforth was probably not infertile. Grindelwald's revelation to Credence seems quite conclusive, and that has led to plenty of fans theorizing how on earth Dumbledore has a secret brother, and who else in the Harry Potter world he is probably related to. 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